Y'know, a veto of the NDAA seems hopeless now.

[baphnedia]

So, that NDAA passed the Senate 93-7.  Doesn't matter if Obama were to veto it... heck based on what I've read from the Wall Street Journal... yeah.  The USA just got really, really ugly.  

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204826704577073271368204202.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

I'm renewing my passport. 

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[baphnedia]

Oh, as an update - I found out through CBS (not that I can find the article now) that before the NDAA was passed 93-7, both parties amended the provisions to exclude US Citizens.

Unfortunately, it was at that point that the intent behind the provisions was made clear by Senator Levin (Michigan), in that there is already legal precedent set by the Supreme Court to suspend habeas corpus whenever the hell it wants to, and to whomever it wants to (Hamdi vs Rumsfeld in 2004). So, on the plus side, nothing has changed if you are a US Citizen or legal resident. However, this sheds light on how hard the Supreme Court is protecting the rights and liberties of our citizens.

[altivo]

Or rather, how well the courts and congress both are protecting the rights and privileges of wealthy individuals and corporations. The rest of us are just lemmings to them. They don't care, they no longer have to, They aren't even worried that we could take control back through the elective process. They know they own the ballot box and the media too completely.

The US has become no different from any of the oppressive regimes it has criticized and fought against years ago.